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Jeff Foli Update

February 19, 2008

Jeff FoliA few months ago, former mayor of Chillicothe, Missouri, Jeff Foli submitted a guest post, Political Power in the Pulpit, about his concerns regarding then candidate Mitt Romney based on his own experience with Mormon Church leaders while mayor.  I suggest you go back and read it.  It’s quite thought-provoking.

Since that time, Jeff has provided an update on his own situation, and I have decided to go ahead and put it here on the front page for the benefit of our readers.  Once again, here is Jeff Foli:

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Probably because of the Romney controversy, on February 4, 2008, Thomas S. Monson said to Peggy Stack, reporter for the Salt Lake Tribune, that the church does not get involved in political matters. If this is true, then why, when I was Mayor of Chillicothe Missouri, was I was threatened with excommunication if I did not rescind a piece of Legislation that I sent to the Missouri State Legislature?

It is supposedly against Federal Law (Title 26, Section 501) for a church to influence legislation, but in 2003, the late Prophet Gordon B. Hinckley and his councilors thought it appropriate and acceptable to threaten my membership in the church when I was Mayor of Chillicothe in Northwest Missouri, regarding a political matter.

On Feb. 17, 2007, the Church will hold a disciplinary Council (church court) on me because I let the public know of these acts via the Internet, and I finally filed charges with the local Sheriff, the ACLU, the IRS, and others because of the continual manipulation and abuse of Mormon leaders. I tried for several years to quietly and internally settle these issues, but they would have none of it.

They view my exposure and revealing of their actions as my attempt to disparage and criticize leaders (evil speaking of the Lord’s anointed). They state, “those who reject Christ’s servants, reject him”. Why does leadership demand no accountability in Churches for inappropriate actions of leaders?

Do we think Brigham Young would have personally sought out those accountable for the senseless murder of 120 men, women, and children on SEPTEMBER 11, 1857, without pressure from the Federal Government? Who will protect us? Where are the checks and balances for questioning potential religious abuses?

Most of the Mormon people are good, honest individuals, but the people of Missouri will not put up with this type of stronghanded influence. So as the Mormon Migration to Missouri continues, I hope the Mormon people will open their minds and become more careful and considerate of the people they meet.

Most have no idea of what really happened in Missouri over 170 years ago, because the whole story was never fully told.

Jeff Foli
Former Mayor of Chillicothe, Missouri


Mitt — Set Our People Free!

January 7, 2008

FirecrackerIt looks like the big blockbuster of a scandal that some were buzzing about before the weekend doesn’t really amount to much. It appears to be an anti-Mormon book with nothing new to say. Will it have any impact on the race? Doubtful.

This exciting new book — Mitt, Set Our People Free! — published by Revelation Press, reveals just how Mitt Romney’s sacred oath to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, known as the Mormons or the LDS — including a vow of obedience to the “Living Prophet,” the President of the LDS Church — will impact his ability to govern as President of the United States.

While there are those who have voiced similar concerns about the Mormon Church putting pressure on politicians, such as a President Romney, it’s not like this is anything new or earth shattering.

Jesus said that man cannot serve two masters — but if Romney is elected President, he will have to serve two conflicting oaths. American Presidents swear an oath to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States. However, this Presidential Oath is in direct conflict with Romney’s sacred oath to his Mormon Church — a blood oath which puts Romney’s life, fortune and obedience at the unrestricted service of his Church. This obedience is defined by the Church’s Living Prophet, the President of the Mormon Church and — as they believe — the literal Voice of God on earth.

I mean it’s not exactly news that the real President would be the Mormon Church if Romney were to be elected. So what’s new about this? (By the way, I’m kidding.)

According to author Mike Moody, “One of the LDS Church’s basic tenets is a prophecy from founder and First Prophet Joseph Smith that in the latter days, the U.S. Constitution will ‘hang by a thread as fine as silk fiber’ until a Mormon leader rides in on his White Horse to save the U.S. and the Constitution — then use his control of the United States to set up a world-wide theocracy, one based on the clearly unorthodox beliefs of the Church of Latter Day Saints.”

Scaremongering or a legitimate issue? You be the judge. It seems like many were perhaps correct: this is just someone trying to sell a book.

— Psycheout

Faithmouse on “The Speech”

December 4, 2007

Faithmouse speaks for all of us in this timely cartoon by Dan Lacey.


Heh, indeed.  Maybe Flipper will announce on Thursday that he’s converting to Southern Baptist.  It wouldn’t surprise me a bit.

See also: Mitt Romney Rolls the Dice.

— Psycheout

Mitt Romney Rolls the Dice

December 2, 2007

Snake EyesMitt Romney has decided to make “the speech.” The speech in which he tries to allay fears about belonging to the Mormon church, which many evangelicals believe is not Christian. Mitt’s cheering fan club will cautiously say that this is a good idea and that Romney has been planning to do this for some time. That’s nonsense. “The speech” has been on the back burner because it’s not something that Team Romney has been anxious to do, especially not during the primary.

Make no mistake about it, there is one reason and one reason alone that “the speech” is being pulled out of mothballs now: Mike Huckabee is presenting a serious challenge to him in Iowa. And I’m not not so sure that this is a good move for Romney. It’s a big gamble for him for a number of reasons.

  • Perception of Weakness
  • Makes Mormonism a Legitimate Issue
  • Little To Gain, Much To Lose

All of a sudden deciding to make “the speech” now shows weakness: the Romney campaign is clearly worried about Huck. That’s the only reason to play the Mormon card at this time.

The speech also makes the issue of Romney’s religion a legitimate issue. Once Mitt brings it up and tries to equate it with Christianity, it opens a Pandora’s Box which he will be unable to close. People who didn’t know or care about his religion will now be thinking about it. That Romney himself chose to speak about it, to downplay or justify it, will plant in peoples’ minds that it is something for them to be concerned about.

The Book of MormonFrankly I don’t see what he expects to gain from this. He is not JFK. He’s not going to convince people that see Mormonism as a cult that it’s not. I’m not sure that there’s a lot of people waiting for Mitt to say “Mormonism rocks!” before they throw their support behind him. But there’s the chance, if he flubs it, or even if he doesn’t, that this will create concern in peoples’ minds where they did not already exist. This is a risky move. Team Romney is feeling some desperation. That seems obvious.

Equating Mormonism and Christianity is very risky. Pointing out the differences is likewise risky. I’m not sure how Team Romney expects this is going to help his campaign. It probably won’t. And that’s perfectly fine with me.

If Mitt claims that Mormonism is superior to Christianity (because it has Another Testament of Jesus Christ, a sequel to The Bible, revealed by the angel Moroni to Joseph Smith) or that The Bible contains mistakes (in content or translation), that Mormons can become gods in the afterlife, that Jesus and Satan were brothers, that Adam and Eve were heroes for disobeying G-d, etc., etc., it’s going to seriously hurt his chances among America’s mainstream Christians.

There are plenty of reasons not to support Romney. Addressing his religion in “the speech” will not make those reasons go away. Mitt is taking a big gamble. There’s a lot of chips in Iowa. Romney may be handing them to Huck. How generous of him!

Update: Tommy Oliver voices his concerns. Hot Air also reacts.

Update 2: This is not Mitt Romney: Rare video JFK 1960 Speech at the Houston Ministers.

Related and relevant: Political Power in the Pulpit, a guest post by former Mayor Jeff Foli.

— Psycheout

Political Power in the Pulpit

November 30, 2007

B4C is honored to present this guest post written by Jeffery Curtis Foli, the former mayor of Chillicothe, Missouri.

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Mitt RomneyHow far should religious leaders be able to go before they cross the line and breach the legal separation between Church and State, and who will hold them accountable? Jerry Falwell, Pat Robertson, Gordon B. Hinckley, Oral Roberts, and some Catholic leaders are just a few who have challenged these issues.

I hope it is not the case, but if my story is any indication, Mormon religious leaders will take Mitt Romney aside as needed and help him remember just where his ultimate loyalties lie. I, as well as Mitt Romney, have made sacred agreements to support the interests of God’s future kingdom, as we see it within the Mormon perspective. But are individual religious interests and National interest always necessarily the same? In the case of a President Mitt Romney, is what is good for the Mormon people, equally good for all the citizens of the USA, and will the leaders press him?

I don’t know if Mitt ever had this issue before him in the past while serving as Governor of Massachusetts, but this possibility was twice made clear to me while I was serving as Mayor/CEO of the City of Chillicothe, Missouri. During one incident, I was taken into church offices and verbally threatened, by President and Prophet Gordon B. Hinckley via Stake President, and attorney, Detlif Lehnardt in a private meeting, with excommunication if I did not rescind my recently proposed legislation. I believe Federal Law (Tax Code Title 26 section 501) states that a Church cannot engage in such activity.

In another incident, Mormon leaders confronted me and told me to support the Mormon party line on a specific issue instead of what I knew was legal, honest, and in the best interest of those in my City. Since my oath of office was to represent the citizens of my City, and not the interests of the Mormon Church, I pressed each issue as far as I could in an appropriate way. I believe we can serve in both capacities in an open, honest, and honorable way, if the leaders will just keep their noses out of places they don’t belong.

Charges and complaints have recently been filed with the Sheriff of Livingston County Missouri, the ACLU, and the IRS. At each and every turn, these charges have been stonewalled, with no one wanting to challenge the accountability. The Mormon Church is enormously popular as well as powerful.

Just to reiterate, I ask, will Mitt Romney be his own man if elected, or would he be controlled by Religious Leaders? The multi-million man re-migration of Mormons to Missouri could be triggered in a small way just by the election of Romney. These issues are not at all isolated to the Mormons, I am sure.

Jeff FoliJeffery Curtis Foli
Former Mayor
City of Chillicothe, Missouri

Mitt Romney on Adam and Eve

November 12, 2007

Adam and EveMitt Romney needs to talk more about his “religion.” He needs to have that JFK talk where he explains his religion to mainstream Americans. The more he does that, the more people will turn away from this “empty suit.”

When people realize that Mittens can make such poor choices about something as important as personal faith, the more they will reject him. Mormonism is a myth, a scam, a sham. It is not Christian. Yea, it is a perversion of Christianity.

Mitt Romney recently made a really dumb Adam and Eve joke which either reveals his lack of understanding of Christianity, his own Mormon religion (revealed by Moroni) or his inability to tell a good joke. Perhaps all three.

At one young couple’s house, Romney remarked at the large leaves on their tree, quipping, “Adam and Eve would not have looked as promiscuous if they had had leaves this big.”